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The other day I came across a “Sorry Yet?” bumper sticker on a SUV driving in front of me. If you click on the link, you’ll see that it is asking if the reader is sorry for having voted for Barack Obama as President. Below “Sorry Yet?” are the words, “If you’re not outraged, you’re not paying attention.”

I have been paying attention and while I’ve felt disappointment at times, I’m not outraged and I’m not sorry for voting for President Obama.

President Obama has elevated the rhetoric in Washington and has put an end to the despicable practice of portraying Administration critics as enemies of America itself. He conducts himself as though all US citizens are real Americans, which is the great truth of America. Whether or not we agree with a particular politician, we are all 100% American.

Aside from that we are slowly regaining the respect of the world that President Bush squandered and we’ve started on the path of turning away from a petroleum based economy.

While his Administration has refused to provide accountability for torture and other crimes of the last Administration, at least it is not engaging in them now. Finally, we seem to be on a clear path to upholding our responsibilities under our agreement to withdraw from Iraq.

I have nothing to be sorry for. Would I vote for Obama in 2012? It depends. But if the Republicans offer me the same type of ticket in 2012 they offered in 2008, then I’d likely vote for President Obama again.

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  1. You obviously have not been paying attention.
    Bowing to world leaders has made us look weak in the worlds eyes and many world leaders have said so.
    North Korea and Iran who were hesitant about their nuclear capabilities actively flaunt them now that they no longer fear us.
    He went around the world apologizing for us? Why? All of these countries get money for us and we have to apologize? Quid pro quo, you take our money you play by our rules plain and simple, nothing to apologize for.
    The majority of people were against the healthcare bill but he pushed that through, that was real representation there.
    He snubs the troops on Memorial Day and he has vilified Israel in favor of the terrorist Palestinians.
    He has the most closed administration of any, and the freaking liberal press are the ones saying that.
    All he does is play golf and lie.
    If you can’t see it, you are living under a rock.

    Here is a thousand PROVEN lies: http://conservativeamerican.org/obama-administration-scandals-list/page-20-951-1000/

  2. Well-written and thoughtful. I couldn’t agree more. Thank you.

  3. Hi codecrackx15,

    President Obama did not snub the troops on Memorial Day. For this year he visited the Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery near Chicago and gave a speech to soldiers at Andrews Air Force Base. You can read about his and other President’s Memorial Day observances at http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/memorialday.asp. The President’s Memorial Day speech can be read at http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-memorial-day-andrews-air-force-base.

    I took a look through the web site you offered. Some of the claims, like 970, appear to be disapproval of actions rather than lies. President Obama may or may not have attended 2009 Christmas services, but according to the Urban Legends Pages at http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/trifecta.asp, he is far from the first President to miss services, if he did.

    Certainly Obama has broken promises, I wish he would have brought the torturers of the last Administration to justice, either here at home or at the Hague. But if we booted out every politician who broke a promise, we’d have no government. If he keeps breaking promises, he’ll see his support dwindle and the Republicans will have a shot at 2012 if they don’t blow it by demonizing everyone who disagrees with their platform.

    Most of the scandals sound like policy disagreements to me, such as 995. I’ve left your link intact so people can judge for themselves.

    A person or nation of courage and strength can make apologies and acknowledge past wrongs. It is the bully, terrified that people will see him as less than all powerful, who is found bellowing that they have never make a mistake in their entire life.

    The Bible teaches us that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. As nations are made up of human beings, all nations have fallen short of the glory of God and by definition, make mistakes. Those who admit mistakes can fix them.

    Finally, you should know that your comment, like the bumper sticker, energizes my support for President Obama. I’ve noted in previous posts the things I’ve found the President disappointing on. My enthusiasm flags. Then someone like you comes along who insists that anyone who disagrees with you hates America and I find myself moving back towards a figure who can disagree with people gracefully and who carries out about 60-70% of what I believe in.

    If your ultimate goal is to get people to reconsider the President, try something different.

  4. I’m wondering if codecrackx15 was this disappointed and this outraged from 2000 to 2008. Let’s see, that’s a time that had everything such as but not limited to: lies, deceit, thievery, torture, rape of the environment, pillage of the working class. What more could a person ask for?

  5. Hi WakeUpAmerica, I have to admit that in light of the Bush years, I’m very disappointed in how many people only became concerned about government corruption and violations of the Constitution on January 20, 2009.

    If you haven’t checked out the Obama “scandal” website codecrackx15 referenced, it’s worth checking out. I find it interesting that the site documents some of the President’s real and perceived broken promises to the left, like support for a public option in healthcare. Most right wing sites I’ve come across only ding Obama for his supposed lack of love for our country and our nation’s military, plus his supposedly unique spending habits. They don’t talk about his reversals on liberal issues because they don’t want to ruin his image on the Right as the ultimate liberal.

    There was more that I could have addressed in the message, like how North Korea actually went nuclear under Bush*, not Obama, but it didn’t seem worth my time since it is quite unlikely I could change Codecrackx15’s mind on the President.

    Activists on both sides of the political spectrum should be focusing their efforts on the undecided and the less than supercommitted people on the other side. They should be respectful while doing so. Bashing the true believers on the opposite side just tends to lead to exhaustion, in my view. It’s important to correct lies and misperceptions when they’re thrown in your face, but we don’t have to spend a lot of emotional energy doing it.

    * North Korea Confirms It Has Nuclear Weapons
    Friday, February 11, 2005, Fox News
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,146950,00.html

  6. North Korea went nuclear under Clinton, he gave them the technology. Under Bush they were shuttering there nuclear operations. Obama gets in and they start it back up. Stop with the revisionist history already.
    And as far as torture. If any water boarding and torture was done and it saved american lives (which was the case) then I’m all for it. If you care so little for American’s and the lives of Americans you can always move to the middle east and see how they treat you.

  7. I don’t know where codcrackx15 is getting his info, but everything I have heard and read refutes the claim that the torture and waterboarding elicited any useful information. On the contrary, torture tended to encourage victims to say anything to make the torture stop.

    Torture is un-American, unChristian, and inhumane. Finding out that our country had secret prisons and was torturing suspected terrorists made me feel ashamed of our government. IMHO, Bush, Cheney, and others should be tried for war crimes.

  8. CIA wins are not reported, only the failures. Are you that naive???
    An attack on LAX was stopped because of water boarding kalid sheik muhammad. If he had not been water boarded then the attack would have happened and more american lives would possibly be gone. Being nice to a terrorist is not going to save lives, if you think it is you are naive as hell.
    As far as unchristian, go read about the travesties of the crusades and the things Christians did back then.
    I would say, if we had not water boarded that idiot and got the info to stop the LAX attack then that would have been pretty unAmerican right there. Stop trying to play nice and hold the hand of people who would not bat an eye in cutting off your head for being in their country.
    If you think that the lives of those Americans that were saved from that sick terrorists water boarding is wrong then you are un American and just plain sick.

  9. codecrackx15, you would do well to cast a wider net if and when you do research. You would also do well to refrain from juvenile name-calling. As to what is un-American, we will have to agree to disagree. I stand by my belief that torture goes against American and Christian principles.

  10. OK, agree to disagree but that also means you would rather have had the attack on LAX go down and Americans die, that is un-American. Also, it’s not name calling to call some one naive when it appears that they are on this issue.
    If that LAX attack had happened, I wonder how you would feel telling those families that their loved ones were killed because we didn’t do everything we could have to get the information to save them? Obviously you think the that terrorists comfort is worth more than American lives.

  11. First, the LAX bombing/torture remark is a Fox News spin and has never been substantiated. Just as there is no proof that torturing terrorists saved anyone’s life. Second, America has always claimed to stand against torture as inhumane. America has derided and imposed sanctions against countries that among other things “tortured” its citizens (cough, Saddam). I didn’t realize we had a caveat to that: America never supports or partakes in torture unless it is America that is attacked. You can’t have it both ways. Torture makes us no better than the terrorists. Third, Saying I am un-American and sick because I disagree with you is name-calling. Fourth, I can find no way to reconcile torture with Christian principles. It is barbaric.

  12. The LAX was in the State of the Union and on CNN and even local news all in the same week, where were you?
    Yeah, you can’t have it both ways, and you sidestepped the fact that you care more for a rotten terrorist over american lives.

  13. Where were you when it was debunked? As I said, cast a wider net when you do research. Hopefully, your research doesn’t just include the talking heads on the news channels. As for whom I care, I care for my soul. If you’re not a Christian, then I’m wasting my breath discussing the immorality of torture with you. The problem with uber-patriots is that they think the people in their country are more important than other people. I take a more global view. I people of all countries are important. I seriously doubt that Jesus cared about the sovereignity of countries. He cared about people, all people.

  14. I can’t remember the last time one of my posts garnered this many comments. I think it would be helpful to both of you to cite your sources.

    codecrackx15 – I think we have different definitions of “going nuclear.” I take it to mean the disclosure and/or testing of nuclear weapons. The original Fox News article I offered before indicates that the North Koreans admitted to having nuclear weapons for the first time in 2005, four years after Bush became President. Rather than dismantling them, they announced their first nuclear test in 2006, five years after President Bush took office. See “North Koreans Say They Tested Nuclear Device, NYT 10/9/2006 – http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/09/world/asia/09korea.html.

    According to information documented by the Federation of American Scientists at http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/dprk/nuke/index.html, the North Korean nuclear energy (with an option for nuclear) weapons program started in the 1980s, when Reagan was President. Presidents of both parties have struggled with this issue ever since.

    As to torture, I don’t buy its effectiveness and don’t care if it is. I say this for two reasons:

    1) It is contrary to this country’s core values as expressed by the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution. If you want to amend the Constitution to allow torture, you are welcome to try by lobbying your Congressional delegation to use the amendment process in Article V of our Constitution.

    2) As WakeUpAmerica points out, torture is unChristian. You speaker of the Crusaders. They too acted against the Gospel. In Matthew 16:26, Jesus says “What profit would there be for one to gain the whole world and forfeit his life?”
    (http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/matthew/matthew16.htm). If we keep breathing through the use of torture, we have condemned ourselves and crushed our souls.

    Throughout your posts you talk about American Lives. Life is precious and every human being is made in the image of God. But there are some things more important than life. Two of those things for me are faith and freedom.

    Our nation’s founders, whom we commemorate this weekend, understood this. Declaring Independence did not save American lives. It put them at risk. If all that George Washington, Ben Franklin, Jefferson and the rest cared about was preserving their lives and the lives of their friends, they would have never revolted against Britain. They would have paid their taxes and kept writing letters to the King’s ministers for the rest of their natural lives. But they believed in something worth dying for. They sacrificed their comfort and in some cases, their lives so that we could be a nation of laws and bar cruel and unusual punishment in the Supreme Law of our land, the US Constitution.

    I respect that sacrifice. I am proud to be living in a country that embraces those kind of principles. I stand with the people of New Hampshire who once said “Live Free or Die.” I won’t let a handful of terrorists stampede my government into abandoning its core values and waterboard people like some dictatorship.

    Please give up your name calling. Drop the “You disagree with me and therefore you hate America” and you might find that your words get more traction.

  15. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1565012/North-Korea-agrees-to-dismantle-nuclear-plant.html
    North Korea agrees to dismantle nuclear plant
    By Richard Spencer in Beijing
    Published: 6:56PM BST 03 Oct 2007

    http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=20448
    Appeasing North Korea: the Clinton Legacy
    Under the final terms of the Agreed Framework approved in October of 1994, Clinton agreed to provide the “Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea” (DPRK) with two light water nuclear reactors and a massive allotment of oil. The U.S. agreed to ship 500,000 metric tons of oil annually in response to the North’s pretense that the energy-starved backwater had developed the nuclear facility to generate power. These shipments have cost taxpayers more than $800 million to date – a bargain compared with the $6 billion spent on constructing the nuclear reactors, which now empower North Korea to produce 100 nuclear bombs each year.

    And as far as the torture, you bring up the fourth of July and all of our renowned Presidents who gave American citizens liberty and rights under the Constitution and the Bill of rights. You see, we are citizens and those rights are ours but they do not belong to non citizens and they most definitely should not be given to a terrorist.

    http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2009/04/28/is-waterboarding-really-torture-does-it-enhance-our-national-security/
    the CIA Director tells us that more information that directly saved AMERICAN lives came from water boarding three terrorists. More info than the CIA/ FBI/ and NSA put together. Of course a Democrat can never believe or trust someone from the CIA because the knowledge isn’t public so it must be a lie…right? Better to just believe the ACLU who apparently is allowed clearance into those water boarding sessions.
    No one died from being water boarded but American lives were saved. Had they not been water boarded, then Americans would have died.
    How anyone can rationalize that is beyond me. It is just terrifying to think that there are people in this country that would rather give a terrorist the rights of a citizen under our laws and let fellow Americans die.
    That’s all I really have to say because at this point I see that people like you would rather let innocent Americans die just to give away our rights to a Terrorist that is trying to kill us and that is just sick and disgusting to me but hey…. this is a free country and you can think and say whatever you believe.

  16. The following link that you posted (http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2009/04/28/is-waterboarding-really-torture-does-it-enhance-our-national-security) should be the springboard for you to find the primary source and evaluate it. The link you provided is secondary at best and biased. It also appears to be a blog. Did Wintery Knight post any links for his sources? Where did he get his information? That is what I mean by casting a wider net.

  17. You can’t be serious???
    The hyperlinks go back to the news organizations that reported the info. You click on the link and it takes you to the info.
    Biased at best…LMAO…. he basically copy and pasted text from each news story into his blog that he has a corresponding link to the first source on.
    The Wall Street Journal and MSNBC to name a few.
    That is the first time I’ve ever heard of plagiarized material coming from a place like CNBC being biased for the Right…
    OK…that was classic…time for bed…like I said…believe what you want because even when the black and white info is right in front of you you still wouldn’t believe it.

  18. And as far as the torture, you bring up the fourth of July and all of our renowned Presidents who gave American citizens liberty and rights under the Constitution and the Bill of rights. You see, we are citizens and those rights are ours but they do not belong to non citizens and they most definitely should not be given to a terrorist.

    I encourage you to read the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. They refer to persons and individuals for the most part, not citizens. In particular, the Declaration states:

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    EVERYONE has certain UNALIENABLE rights given by God, which no State can legitimately abolish. If this country decides this isn’t true, we should just burn the Declaration and be done with it.

    When we look at the Bill of Rights added to the Constitution, we find:

    Amendment VIII – Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

    If the Founders had wanted to limit these guarantees to citizens, they could have. Like they did in the Constitution’s Article IV section II:

    Section. 2.

    The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

    The Amistad case is an example where non-citizens were given the full rights under our Constitution. The rights under our laws belong to anyone in our jurisdiction.

    Again, if you don’t like what the Constitution currently says, there is a process to change it.

    Fundamentally though, this isn’t about extending rights to non-citizens. When we give ourselves the freedom to torture non-citizens, they’ll be pressure to use it in extreme crimes regardless of citizenship status. Why should a murderer go free if a couple dozen more times through the waterboard will make him confess? Who cares about the rights of child molester? And eventually we’ll find what most countries find when they torture — people will confess to anything just to make the torture stop. At that point, we won’t need juries for anybody anymore because anyone the gov’t picks up MUST be guilty because they always confess in the end. And we will have destroyed our souls in the process.

    That isn’t America. Again, I’m not going to let al-Qaeda stampede my government into abandoning its core values of freedom and rule of law in pursuit of physical safety.

    I’m disappointed that you think our nation can be taken down by a handful of terrorists unless we give up our values. I’m also disappointed that you appear to have no willingness to lobby to change our Constitution to bring about the conduct you want the government to follow in line with our nation’s laws. If you want torture, you should be lobbying to change the Eighth Amendment. Make it legal to torture in cases of national security.

  19. You said, “…That is the first time I’ve ever heard of plagiarized material coming from a place like CNBC being biased for the Right…”

    It happens all the time on both sides. When material is quoted out of context, it is easy to manipulate the meaning. That’s why it is important to go to primary sources whenever possible.

    BTW, I did not say “biased at best”. That is a mistake on your part and changes the meaning of what I said, a perfect example of why it is important to look at primary sources.

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  21. two points. First, the bumper sticker to me seemed to be addressed to those who voted for Obama who “should” be outraged that some of his actions are so very different from his represenatations. An example would be the claim that his administration would be the most open in history. The reality is…well, if you are paying attention, you know. I certainly never thought that the left would be outraged; only those in the center who were taken in. I’ve talked to some of those people.
    Second, although I believe the waterboarding did give us valuable information, and although I’m willing to allow that waterboarding is “mild”, I absolutely believe it is wrong and we should not allow it. I’m a believer in absolute right and wrong. Torture, or near torture, is wrong. Thus I don’t care who or what it saves; it must not be allowed.

  22. Hi Rick,

    Although I dispute the effectiveness of waterboarding and other torture, I appreciate your refusal to make a Faustian bargain for temporary safety.

    Your point about the bumper sticker is well taken, although I’m not sure yet we’ve had a president yet whose actions have more than half matched their representations.

    There are people on the left, including me, who are very disappointed to outraged on the transparency issue.

    Here are three examples, two from Dan Fromkin, a columnist for the liberal Huffington Post, and one from the ACLU, everyone’s favorite liberal whipping boy:

    10 Things Obama Won’t Tell Us (Happy Sunshine Week!) – Dan Froomkin, 3/19/2010
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/19/10-things-obama-wont-tell_n_504950.html

    Obama’s Fiscal Commission: What’s Going On In There? – Dan Froomkin, 5/5/2010
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/05/obamas-fiscal-commission_n_565121.html

    Administration Must Disclose Information About Illegal Drones Use
    http://www.aclu.org/national-security/obama-administration-must-disclose-information-about-illegal-use-drones

    I consider them non-partisan, but the Secrecy News blog at http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/ was viewed by some as liberal for their objections to Bush era secrecy. Their scrutiny and criticism appear unabated in the Obama Presidency.

    Thanks for stopping by.

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